Hello Jossathon members!
Well, today is an important day in Buffy the Vampire Slayer history. Ten years ago our beloved little show premiered. Whether you watched from the beginning or not, this show has now been a part of the world for a decade. Quite a milestone, don't you think? Back then I doubt anyone believe it could become what it did.
Sadly, we planned nothing for today and for that we apologize. However, if you're feeling up to it, perhaps a viewing of Welcome to the Hellmouth and The Harvest is in order! Or, if you can get a hold of a copy, this wonderful person by the name of Luminosity has created a fanvideo called Scooby Road. It goes through the entire Beatles Abbey Road album with scenes from the show. I'm not normally one to enjoy fan videos, but this one is fabulous. The download is huge, but I think it well worth it. You can find a link here
and you'll have to e-mail her for it. Hopefully she won't mind us recommending it.
Now, as for the future of this community. We want everyone to know that we're going to plan some summer viewing! So please keep on the look out for that!
So, from myself as well as cooldecade
, we wish you a happy Buffyversary!
- Music:Going Through the Motions - Sarah Michelle Gellar
"Well ... here I am."
"Yeah, Buffy. What are we gonna do now?"
"Let's go to work!"
Hi everyone! Well, we've finished Jossathon, and this is our final wrap up post!
First of all, I wanted to say that I have loved re-watching these shows with you all. Personally, I've found the experience of watching all the episodes in order -- something I'd never done before since I only really started watching Angel in the middle of season 3 -- very interesting, and I've enjoyed reading all your thoughts on the episodes. I know my co-moderators cooldecade
feel the same way, and we would all like to thank you very much for participating with us! :D
From our perspective, everything went pretty much according to plan, but we would like to know how you felt about the experience -- the way the community was run, the discussions, etc. -- and what you feel you got out of it. Has it changed your perspective on the shows at all? Did you start to think of things in new ways? If you have any comments, please do leave them on this entry because we'd love to hear them.
Now, a bit of unfinished business from yesterday: our weekly poll has Not Fade Away as our unanimous choice for favourite episode (not surprisingly) and The Girl in Question as the almost unanimous choice for least favourite (also not surprisingly).
Speaking of polls, we have one final one for you to fill out. It asks for your opinions on the shows one last time, plus there are a couple of questions related to your participation in the community. We would appreciate it if you'd take a moment to fill it out. :)( Final Poll!Collapse )
Finally, related to that last poll question -- we would like to bring this community back to life in some form, though we are not sure exactly when that will happen. We thought that instead of doing the same thing over again, we would revamp the "mission statement," so to speak, of the community. Our idea is to take suggestions from members each week for Jossverse "mini-fests" -- that is, groups of episodes (probably 3-8 per week) all centred around a certain theme. For example, I would probably suggest a minifest based around evil twins and body snatchers, and my mini-fest could feature the Buffy episodes Doppelgangland, The Replacement, Intervention, and Who Are You along with Carpe Noctem and maybe The Girl in Question from Angel. The theme of the mini-fest could be anything you can think of, whether it be something story-related (a common story element: betrayal? character death?), ship-related (a Willow/Tara fest), or character-related (Xander-centric episodes). We think that would be a fun and probably thought-provoking way to look at things, but we'd love to know your thoughts on the subject. Does that sound like a good idea or do you have another suggestion of something we might do? Please comment and let us know!
Okay, that's about it! If you want to reach us for some reason while the community is on hiatus, just comment on this post and we'll see it. Once again, thank you very much for your participation. It's been awesome!spidermansays
, and verycleanindeed
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Rewatching Angel, my favorite characters and episodes have remained the same, but I've gained a new perspective on certain events and I've also really enjoyed reading what other people think about each episode. Angel wasn't a show afraid to take risks -- Doyle's death, the move to the Hyperion, the birth of Connor, evil "Cordelia," the move to Wolfram and Hart, and the death of Fred -- those shakeups all majorly changed the feel of the show, and even though some worked better than others, it certainly kept things interesting.
Like Meaghan did in her Buffy recap post, I'm going to share some of my Angel favorites. :)( My favorites!Collapse )
So, that's the end! We have finished Jossathon! Can you believe it? It's been a really good experience for me rewatching these shows that I love so much. Tomorrow we're having a wrap-up post with more polls and we'll tell you about some future ideas we have for the community, so don't go anywhere just yet. :)
Written by: Joss Whedon
Directed by: Joss Whedon
Release Date: September 30, 2005Synopsis
With an Alliance operative on their tail, the Serenity screw discovers what River knows that the Alliance wants kept hidden.Relevant Links
Fanlisting: BeliefThe Mods' Sad Attempt to Start Discussion
Well, here we are, the Big Damn Movie.
First of all, that first shot of Serenity is just beautiful. Paired with the music, it just gives you chills. To see her up there on the big screen, it's just gorgeous. Even if you waited to see the movie on DVD it's amazing. It does stand for something, the Browncoats made it somewhere far. I know I felt thrilled going into this film and thrilled watching it. I wasn't disappointed with it. Obviously, with such a large cast Joss can't give everyone the proper attention they deserve but everyone made the most of their time. Book and Inara are the ones that strike me the most, they really get the least amount to do here.
Book... Who knows if we'll ever figure out who he was before his time on Serenity. Speculation is that he was an operative and it seems likely. Though his part here is very small, he does something very important for Mal. That last scene between the two of them is just so beautiful and heartbreaking. Ron Glass and Nathan Fillion are so wonderful in it. Not to mention, once Book dies, you really feel safe for everyone else, don't you? You really don't see Wash's death coming! Of course, then Wash dies and you don't feel safe for anyone! That Joss Whedon is an evil genius.
Really, though, the focus on this one goes to Summer Glau and Nathan Fillion. Mal struggles with believing in something and finally comes to it. When it starts he's much more jaded and nasty than he was on the show. It's a nice switch of gears, I enjoy seeing it. I like seeing the toll of what the Alliance has done on River. Summer does a really nice job. She manages some great facial expressions, not just as she's struggling but also as she has some rather comical moments. The scene during the robbery at the beginning with Zoe comes to mind and also when Simon asks if he's talking to Miranda.
Well, this is my final Jossathon post. Thank you everyone, it's been a blast!
"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."Previous Episode Posts This WeekTime BombThe Girl in QuestionPower PlayNot Fade Away
Written by: Joss Whedon and Jeffrey Bell
Directed by: Jeffrey Bell
Original Airdate: May 19, 2004Synopsis
As they prepare to take down the Circle of the Black Thorn, the gang takes one last day to themselves.Relevant Links
Transcript: at BuffyWorld
Screencaps: at Screencap Paradise
Fanlisting: Slay the DragonExtra Info
This is the final episode of Angel.The Mods' Sad Attempt to Start Discussion
I really like seeing how everyone decides to spend their final day. Of course Wesley and Illyria really have nowhere to go so they're left alone. I like seeing that Gunn goes to Anne's, though. It's nice to see her, she's a character who's been with not only this show but with Buffy for such a long time. Also, with all of the change Gunn went through it brings him back to his roots. The scenes between Angel and Connor are nice as well. It's nice to see Vincent Kartheiser get to be a teenager. I like the place that their relationship has ended up. As for ended up, and I'll talk more about it later, it's interesting to see where Lorne has ended up. He's very stoic here and spends his day at a karaoke bar. Spike reciting poetry is classic.
I like everyone taking part in the plan. They know what they have to do and they accept it. As cheesy as it sounds, they all take their roles as champions. I remember being completely shocked at seeing Lorne kill Lindsey. I understand why Angel would ask Lorne to do it, Lindsey would never see it coming. He clearly doesn't, he tells Eve that he doesn't. It's something from Lorne we've never seen before and you can understand from that why he'd need to leave and never have any part of this anymore. It's just not in him.
Illyria brings a lot to the final battle. She feels grief, she doesn't want Gunn to die. She's feeling attached to these people and she also feels anger at being beaten up. It's been a fascinating arc. It's been well written and Amy Acker has written it so well. She and Alexis do such a nice job during that final scene between Wesley and Illyria when she asks him if he'd like her to lie to him now.
I find it a memorable ending and an inspirational one.Previous Episode Posts This WeekTime BombThe Girl in QuestionPower Play
Written By: David Fury
Directed By: James A. Contner
Original Airdate: May 12, 2004Synopsis
Angel's strange behaviour convinces the gang that he's joined an elite group of evildoers called the Circle of the Black Thorn - a group he could only have joined by killing one of his own.Relevant Links
Transcript: at Buffyworld
Screencaps: at Screencap Paradise
Fanlisting: Somewhere a Clock is TickingThe Mods' Attempts to Get the Discussion Going
The first time I saw this episode, I think I had the reaction the writers intended -- I had no freaking idea what Angel could possibly be up to and was very disturbed by his behaviour. Now that I know what was going on, I watch it in a different light (obviously), but I still enjoy watching the rest of the team piece together the version of events Angel has set up. Those scenes with Wes, Lorne, Spike, Gunn, and Lindsey (and I really like that they've brought him back for the ending) or Drogyn are really well done. The Circle of the Black Thorn thing kind of comes out of nowhere, but it makes sense that such a group would exist and I like that they've brought back all these apparently random characters we've seen over the course of the season. Do we think they had this planned all along or did they pull it out of a hat? I don't know, but I choose to think it was planned because ... I want to believe. lol.
The ending of this episode is one of my favourite scenes. I love that Angel uses the glamour to hide what's going on in the room. I don't know why, but I just really like that plot device. The whole conversation that takes place in there is fantastically done, and I find it really exciting when Angel reveals his plan. The moments when they're all thinking it over and when they start raising their hands -- it's like you see so much of each character in their reactions. I think it's extremely well done, and it also has the effect of getting me very, very hyped for the finale. Clearly, much of the point of this episode is to do just that: build up to the big events to come. But I think it's also a very good episode in its own right.
Also, Illyria and Drogyn playing Crash Bandicoot KILLS ME. Every. Time. :)Links to Previous Episode Posts This WeekTime BombThe Girl in Question
This is my last episode post! I can't believe it!
Written By: Steven S. DeKnight, Drew Goddard
Directed By: David Greenwalt
Original Airdate: May 5, 2004Synopsis
As Fred's parents arrive to visit their daughter, Angel and Spike fly to Rome to save Buffy from her new evil lover who they're convinced has her under his equally evil spell.Relevant Links
Transcript: at Buffyworld
Fanlisting: Movin' OnExtra Info
Last appearances for Julie Benz and Juliet Landau as Darla and Drusilla. Also, Tom Lenk makes his second and final appearance as Andrew. This is the last Buffy/Angel crossover and the last episode to feature flashbacks to Spike and Angel's past.The Mods' Attempts to Get the Discussion Going
All the stuff with Angel and Spike in Italy in this episode is ridiculously stupid and funny. I don't know that I think there's much point to it -- it doesn't offer much of a resolution to the story and we get yet another cheesy SMG stand-in -- but I enjoy it nonetheless. Flashbacks on Angel are always fun, and it's never a bad thing to see Darla and Dru, even if it's only for a few minutes (though it is a bit sad to think that this is the last time we'll ever see those two ... such amazing characters, and it's not much of a finale for them really). The barfight scene when Angel and Spike start beating each other up really makes me laugh, as do the image of Angel putting his arms around Spike's waist on the scooter thing and their argument over how many times they've saved the world ("She killed
you! I helped her! That one counts as mine.") and Spike complaining about losing his "second skin." Angel looks so uncomfortable in that new jacket. LOL. In general I think this is just a fun episode for that relationship, which has been one of the most entertaining things about the season.
... and then on the flipside, there are the scenes with the Burkles at Wolfram and Hart, which I find totally crushing. They are such nice people -- really the only likeable parents in the entire Buffyverse other than Joyce Summers -- and it's very difficult to watch them be so happy to see Fred and totally oblivious to what's actually going on. When Trish asks Wes if he's got a woman in his life ... it's harsh. Really tough, and such a huge contrast with the rest of the episode. They do like to mess with us, don't they?Links to Previous Episode Posts This WeekTime Bomb
Written By: Ben Edlund
Directed By: Vern Gillum
Original Airdate: April 28, 2004Synopsis
Although Illyria rescues Gunn, Angel realizes she must be killed after her body begins a deadly physical breakdown which could unleash enough power to destroy the world.Relevant Links
Transcript: at Buffyworld
Screencaps: at Screencap Paradise
Fanlisting: Time BombExtra Info
The pregnant woman is played by David Boreanaz's real life wife, Jaime Bergman.The Mods' Attempts to Get the Discussion Going
I like this episode because I really enjoy Illyria. I think she's a very interesting character and I like watching her try to find her way in her reduced state of being. The writers and Amy Acker do a great job of making her into someone we can almost kinda relate to, or at least sympathize with. It's quite remarkable really the way Amy Acker manages to show that this being with the power of a god who is constantly talking about her own greatness is actually really scared, vulnerable, and confused underneath it all. I like the way they present her travels through the timeline in the episode, too, and the scene where she takes out the whole team in like 10 seconds is very exciting and shocking, until we realize what's actually going on. I like how the episode itself feels disorienting -- we're lost with Illyria.
The ending, where Angel lets the woman sign her baby over to the Brethren, is very disorienting too. It feels so strange seeing Angel do something like that and not really knowing what he's thinking. Of course eventually we find out that he's working on his big plan, but right now it's confusing and a bit upsetting seeing him act that way. Those conversations between Angel and Illyria about what a king should do certainly end up having a big influence on Angel's behaviour through these last few episodes.
"Secret Demon" stalking "Blue Bird" around the office cracks me up every time, lol.
This Week's Episodes
5x19 Time Bomb
5x20 The Girl in Question
5x21 Power Play
5x22 Not Fade Away
Our favorite episode last week (and what a great week it was) was a tie between Smile Time and A Hole in the World, possibly the funniest and saddest episodes of the series! I voted for Smile Time, but I love them both. Least favorite episode was overwhelmingly Why We Fight, which is, in my opinion, decent enough, but obviously the weakest link in the bunch.
This is our last week! :-0 I can't believe we've come this far in our marathon. It was sad to see the Buffyverse vanish from TV, but I think the end of Angel is a fantastic way to go out. Not Fade Away, indeed (here we are, years later -- the Jossverse endures). I'm really looking forward to rewatching these episodes. When we finish Angel, we're going to wrap-up with Serenity. Enjoy the week! :)
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This is really an exceptionally strong week. I think it's quite possibly the strongest block of episodes we've seen from Angel, and on just about any other week I think Origin, A Hole in the World, Shells, or Underneath could absolutely crush the competition in the favourite episodes poll. Sadly, this is also the week of Smile Time, an episode that is not only completely hilarious and fun to watch but also a brilliantly executed satire. So! Smile Time gets my vote for favourite episode but nearly everything else is excellent, too. :) (I'll be shocked if Why We Fight doesn't get least favourite, lol.)
I can't believe next week is our last week! It's going to be great watching this last bunch of episodes, but also rather sad because Angel does go out on such a high note in terms of quality which makes the cancellation even harder to take. Stupid WB.