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Episode Post: AtS - 5x20 The Girl in Question 
July 28, 2006
Episode Info
Written By: Steven S. DeKnight, Drew Goddard
Directed By: David Greenwalt
Original Airdate: May 5, 2004

As Fred's parents arrive to visit their daughter, Angel and Spike fly to Rome to save Buffy from her new evil lover who they're convinced has her under his equally evil spell.

Relevant Links
Transcript: at Buffyworld
Screencaps: Bellissimo
Fanlisting: Movin' On

Extra Info
Last appearances for Julie Benz and Juliet Landau as Darla and Drusilla. Also, Tom Lenk makes his second and final appearance as Andrew. This is the last Buffy/Angel crossover and the last episode to feature flashbacks to Spike and Angel's past.

The Mods' Attempts to Get the Discussion Going
All the stuff with Angel and Spike in Italy in this episode is ridiculously stupid and funny. I don't know that I think there's much point to it -- it doesn't offer much of a resolution to the story and we get yet another cheesy SMG stand-in -- but I enjoy it nonetheless. Flashbacks on Angel are always fun, and it's never a bad thing to see Darla and Dru, even if it's only for a few minutes (though it is a bit sad to think that this is the last time we'll ever see those two ... such amazing characters, and it's not much of a finale for them really). The barfight scene when Angel and Spike start beating each other up really makes me laugh, as do the image of Angel putting his arms around Spike's waist on the scooter thing and their argument over how many times they've saved the world ("She killed you! I helped her! That one counts as mine.") and Spike complaining about losing his "second skin." Angel looks so uncomfortable in that new jacket. LOL. In general I think this is just a fun episode for that relationship, which has been one of the most entertaining things about the season.

... and then on the flipside, there are the scenes with the Burkles at Wolfram and Hart, which I find totally crushing. They are such nice people -- really the only likeable parents in the entire Buffyverse other than Joyce Summers -- and it's very difficult to watch them be so happy to see Fred and totally oblivious to what's actually going on. When Trish asks Wes if he's got a woman in his life ... it's harsh. Really tough, and such a huge contrast with the rest of the episode. They do like to mess with us, don't they?

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July 28, 2006 (UTC)
I was more heartbroken from the Wes/Frillyria scenes than the scenes with the Burkles. Illyria changing into Fred, and Wesley looking like he's going to die of sorrow. Illyria telling him she can be Fred for him, that she wants to pursue it - she's flirting with him! But Wes can't live a lie, he can't believe it, it reminds him too much of what he's lost.

The Wes/Illyria story crushes me. But I love it. It's so beautiful and Shakespearean. The most devastating thing about that story was the fact that it was introduced late in the last season. It's what I regret most about the cancellation of this show, that there was so much potential for more. Wesley and Illyria needed at least one more season, and we'll never have that. It's a real shame.
July 28, 2006 (UTC)
I agree with electrcspacegrl about the Fred/Illyria subplot. The less said about the rest of the episode, the better.
July 29, 2006 (UTC)
I think this episode is a lot of fun (at least, the Angel and Spike parts), and for me it has the perfect amount of resolution to their relationships with Buffy. I mean, there is no simple resolution, so anything too concrete would be ridiculous. Granted the whole Immortal thing feels a bit contrived and the placement of such silliness feels a bit off, but I love it regardless. "I signaled her with my eyes." LOL

The other half of the episode is SO SAD OMG. Wesley KILLS ME. I love the timing of Illyria taking on Fred's form -- they waited just long enough to do it that I wasn't expecting it, and I had just started to accept Fred's demise. It floored me the first time I saw "her" again. So painful.
July 29, 2006 (UTC)
Oh! I haven't said enough about how much I love Amy Acker, and this episode shows once again how fabulous she is. Even when she looks like Fred, she's definitely Illyria. Illyria-as-Fred is creepy.
July 29, 2006 (UTC)
The whole thing about The Immmortal that I find interesting is that everything we know about him is from other peoples' p.o.v. We know that Angel and Spike think he's evil, and women think he's dreamy. What does that tell us about him? It would be interesting to find out he's actually a good guy, probably with shades of grey (isn't that the kind of guy Buffy goes for?). I mean, he was Angelus and Spike's nemesis when they were evil. Enough said.

Can't wait for the Buffy season 8 comics to shed some light on The Immortal.
July 29, 2006 (UTC)
The Spike and Angel stuff is ridiculous and silly and I just really enjoy it. It was a nice little last hurrah for the two of them, I think. Or at least an enjoyable one.